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I just read a few comments from a particular user here during the last few days and feel the urge to say something about it, so this is going to be a not so positive post, I am sorry for that.

What happend: this person commented on some of my pics in the artistic nude section, complaining about too much nudity, asking what this is all about, why someone should even buy my prints and that i don't do art (cause I photograph nudes as well) and (confusing me with the model) asking why I need to be nude in photos and if I would do that also in general or just when it 'seems' to be artistic.
After answering that person started calling me arrogant (I don't mind that actually, I get to hear that sometimes) and wanted to insult me, by implying that I must be stupid / unable to understand what he is saying, cause I am a girl / because I am young, I must be arrogant and considering myself as a true artist without a reason for that and asking if i shoot nudes to show my professional work. About that last part: I know even know what that means...

Unfortunately, I am not able to anser his comments - I guess I got blocked- so as I didn't want to leave insulting comments unter my pics uncommented, I marked some as spam.

So here comes what I really find annoying about all that:
This person just used prejudices against me and assumptions without knowing anything about me or my photography. Assuming I do 'professional' work, assuming I consider myself a big artist, assuming i was the model, etc.. etc.. none of the assumtions were true, many of them would have been clear if he had read the least in my profile. The most disturbing thing to me was that i didn't have the feeling that he wanted to criticize my work or some of it, but that he wanted to rant about it, just because some of them are artistic nudes and he seemed to have a problem with that.
I don't know why he did/does that and what he hopes to attain with that. I don't think he really wanted me or other photographers to stop shooting these, cause if you want people to stop doing something, insulting them is usually not very effective. So what is that all about in the end?? Insulting to feel more powerful/ feel better/ make the other one feel bad/ ... ? I really don't know.

It's not the first time, that I've heard things like that but it was over several days and several pics.
I just hate when that happens, cause I hate it when people confuse the right to say their oppinion with ranting and insulting someone. The worst thing is, when they are unwilling or incapable to see this differance and to understand logic and explenations.

I have nothing against critics, feel free to always citicize my work, if you want. I can't promise you that I will agree with you all the time, sometimes I will, sometimes I woun't. Feel free to think whatever you want about my work, but there is not need to insult artists or their models.

Sorry for the typing errors and good night.

:)
Geraldine
PS: Thanks to the ones who support me or criticize my work with respect to the work and the models.
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tZuB Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
...and to think you're one of the most amazing and tasteful photographers I found in this site!!!....just don't care for trolls :D 
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Saitz Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Student Digital Artist
dude, ingrore that, srsly, we all like your art, its great, and every great man has a few who dont like what he is doing, its natural, there will be always some one who is talking shit like that, there is no other way to act to them then ignoring... its sad, but true, keep going plz ^_^ 
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Momiaartplace Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013
Just keep doing what you been doing so GREAT!!
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XpressivePhotography Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013  Professional Photographer
Wow...you shouldn't have to defend your work to idiots who know nothing of art...your work is beautiful! You are very talented amazing photographer...and I for one would love to apprentice with you...It's sad when people ask you questions, yet don't let you respond or even understand your response...it's like they just want to hear themselves...or see themselves...Anyway, you're amazing...Keep up the fabulous work!
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VincentdelaCruz Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
im in love of your work....
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Odd-Voodoo Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
I've gotta say that I find your work beautiful and inspiring, and I think it is safe to say a majority of others agree as well.  Unfortunately it is sad that people go out of their way to attack those they feel threatened by.  Even worse is that you had to be on the receiving end of it. Regardless, please don't worry about those that are simply out to cause grief with their words.  Keep up the fantastic work and I look forward to seeing more from you in the future!
   
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necromancer120 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Geraldine, it only takes a few ignorant people. Your work is exceptionally tasteful and very well done. If you are happy with it, that is all that really matters.
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BigLoader69 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Sorry to hear this.
I find it funny they were complaining about Nudity in an Artistic Nude section. Isn't nudity implied in the title? Strange!!
In my opinion you do fantastic work so keep it up!!
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Gremlich Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I echo what monochromatic says - for me, your work is always tasteful, well considered, composed and shot, and worthy of any public museum or art gallery. he had but to turn the filters on. His bad, never the artist's.

Give us his DA handle.

Please. (bitte!)
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monochromatic13 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I followed you because a lot of your work with artistic nudes doesn't come off as pornographic. I have seen a few that are a bit more provocative than I would consider normal, but over all, I love all of your work. Your photography is really inspiring me to keep my head up and keep going with my photography too... though I haven't posted anything in ages..
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JCPublishAndDesign Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013
I say give us the name so we can go mark him as spam or find a way to ban him from DA LOL im pretty sure that a lot of us (your followers) would go agree, love your photos... specialy when they involve swords. Keep up the exelent work and pls... give us the name, we'll take care of the rest....... LOL
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nortonman Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013

I always say:  The first rule of art is that it is subjective.  The second rule of art is that IT IS SUBJECTIVE.  And if this is your first night at art club... you have to art.

 

Just because that guy can't see it doesn't mean your work is not artistic.  Fuck that guy.

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JulianKincaid Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
What I find most amusing about this, is that in order to have even seen your work, he had to turn off the filter. So he either came here to preach to you, or he came here to deliberately look at nudes. This then, caused him some degree of guilt and he blames you, because it is easier than looking inward at oneself.

Your art is just that- art. It is lovely. Your models are captivating. You, in particular, are stunning.

I know you commented that you won't allow this to change how you capture your art. That is precisely the right attitude. You should never stop doing the things that you are passionate about, and it is obvious from your work that this is what you were meant to do.

So, screw him and keep doing what you're doing. And love doing it.
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Sweet-Daddy-C Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The problem with the age we live in is  thanks to the likes of Facebook and Twitter and social media in general, it's all to easy to voice an "opinion" and keep anonymity, people do have a right to their opinions but growing number of people have no filter on the opinion machine, it just spews s**t out everywhere. Some people think they are entitled to say whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want, these people have no god damn f**king respect and it is really boiling my swede (pissing me off) that someone as talented as you is getting that kind of s**t. But from the looks of it (I read your latest blog first with was a little backwards) you have some really awesome and supportive fans.
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TheArtOfClarke Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013
Amen. Clap Nod 
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Nomad55 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It is sad that there are people on this site that act like that.
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OttotheConfused Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
Your doing a great job! Keep up the fantastic work!
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Aurelius69 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
It always is frustrating to hear of great artists such as yourself being subjected to insults by narrow minded and bitter people. Rest assured, you are one of my favorite artists here, your work is stunning, and you deserve much better!
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lea-M Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
A lot of <3 
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Mejingjard Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You do not need to care about such behavior, there will always be narrow minded people with some "good behavior" anchored in their education.

Furthermore, this is "art" we are taking about, some will like, some will not. As this kind of attitude does not worth to waste time on it (you gave him/her credit by answering), there will always be someone to get angry for nothing.

There is a lot of nude pictures around DA, some that are good like most of yours and uselfull either in nude drawing or juste because they are nice looking, and some are just provocative and without any point. Some people will think like me, some will find yours photos boring because not provocative...
Well, do not care about insults. Every kind of artists face them at a time or another.
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deviantfemale007 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
"Mach es wie die Sonnenuhr..." du kriegst so viel Lob und Anerkennung für deine Bilder – vergiss den Typ einfach; seine queren Vorwürfen, fallen ja auf ihn selbst zurück. Oder wie BioWorks so schön schreibt: continue doing what makes you happy. And what makes many, many others happy too!
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dragon70 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist

<font><font class="">No te preocupes Gestie  </font></font><font><font class="">Ignóralos  ley del hielo para esas personas,así que no te amargues por comentarios estupidos</font></font><font><font class="">.</font></font>Hug 


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djgPhotography Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
He's a hating troll...people like that are jealous and uninformed.  Just remember too....you don't know him or her or if they are old or young.  Don't bother fighting with them...they are just trying to get you mad and it worked.  You're work IS art and it's beautiful...remember that!
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BioWorkZ Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
If he is going out of his way to be insulting, he's simply projecting his own unhappiness with himself and the world. In the future, don't even bother giving him a reply. It'll only validate his rant. This may be a little off topic, but I listen to lost of Podcasts, and the topic of listeners leaving abrasive messages to the hosts on twitter or facebook. Most of the time, they would just block these people. Other times, they would simply ignore them...don't even give them the satisfaction of blocking. I get a few hate messages myself and when I look into their profile, they're sending hate everywhere. So I wouldn't take it personally, they're just very unhappy people.

Continue doing what makes you happy, there will always be haters. As lame as this sounds, "a haters gonna hate". That's what they do, and the up side is that you're popular enough to be a target for these people. So congrats, and thank you for sharing...I hope you feel better about this because it has nothing to do with you and your work. :)
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GandoTheBard Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know for sure but I doubt that fellow was trying to critique you at all. I think as some suggest he was trying to get under your skin and rile you. It may also be that he has some perverse taboo/fetish with nudity and since your photos tend to really focus on extremely beautiful subjects, this may have caused real turmoil for him. But these conjectures point to two things that are not your problems but his.

In the case of trolling (as we Americans call thus) you not rising to the bait is what best cures it.

In the case of prudery/fetishism, to each their own and thank goodness for the mature content markers and other protections (anti-spam stuff).

You know your worth as an artist (look at all the commentary you receive on the truly outstanding shots. You also know the flaws in your work and as a real artist work on them. I don't think you need to worry, nor post journals like this to get validation. Your validation should be in your inbox on a daily basis.

Regards,

Paul
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The4EverAnGeL Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Good thing to ignore this person although it would have been nice for you being able to put him or her in his/her place. People usually criticize because they are jealous or envious. You have beautiful art nude or non nude, and hope you will continue. good luck and keep up the awseome work.Heart 
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pose4effect Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Looking through the comments, I see lots of positive support already, and I don't want to seem like I'm just echoing their words, so I'll just say keep doing what you're doing, and do your best to ignore the hate.  I love your work, and I always look forward to seeing your photos pop up on my watch list.  Keep it up, you are great!
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LorenzoArt Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love your work.
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thundervelvet Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
Yeah forget those or That idiot...  Keep up the excellent  work! :-)
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Guardian-Wings Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

Report them, flag them, forget them.

 

The work you produce is enjoyed by many and I bet the models are pleased with the work produced with you.

 

The amount of people here who appreciate the work you do is far beyond the crap spouted by one. It gets annoying but hey, without the idiots we wouldn't know who the good people are.

 

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hippieokie Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
I have found that, those who can't create to the artistic community think they have the right to insult artist and their work. We as artist must ignore these narrow minded people.  I for one really like your work.
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AlphaFrequency Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Seems like a trend around deviant to complain about nudes and call it porn instead of good photography. People are just bored.
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mistercarrot Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
The best thing in these situations is just to let the whole thing slide of from you like mud from your skin. And totally ignore the whole thing. It's also the hardest thing to do. It took me about a year to sort of learn it.

The point is that you and him think in a totally different way. Because your a normal everyday person you will think that getting into a dialogue will solve this issue. But if someone is so outspoken about something. (Is it because of religion, mental problems or just the fun of beeing a troll and upsetting people) A dialogue will never work. There is no way he is ever gonna change his comments, behaviour or attitude. So in the end you will have been waisting time and probable been hurt a bit more in the process.

Cool thing is those people can only hurt you if you let them. If you let those comments reach you as a person. Don't. Be proud of what you do. Believe in it. You know you post stuff that is art. That has a beauty. You believe in those pictures. Keep that believe in you and your art. And if someone doesn;t want to see it. Screw him.
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KevyMetal Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
I've been around long enough to hear quite a bit of both positive and negative feedback because of any artwork I have done with nudity. I generally find that negative remarks are indicative of someone with deep personal issues with discomfort of being human and that clothing is an technological adaptation for protection from the elements, number one. Thus allowing humanity to inhabit regions of the planet otherwise inhospitable. And has over time become a means of altering and enhancing one's own aesthetics, thus without going into detail brings it all back to the state of nudity(lengthy dissertation). In a nutshell, it is the natural state of being and no matter one's beliefs, if nudity was not natural, we would all be born with a wardrobe. :)

Take it with a grain of salt and try not to let ignorance get under your skin. I know at times it can be :frustrated: a difficult thing to do, but it is generally best to let those alone and ignore those who have allowed hate and animosity to fill their heart for people like that seldom have the ability to find beauty in anything and often have nothing left in life but their need to agitate and instigate.

Keep up the good work!:boogie:
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TheyManM Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
Your fans and followers outnumber the haters. Keep up the great work!
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shanesemler Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Just another stupid troll. The fact is, a huge chunk of the human race are sociopaths and this manifests itself on the internet where they think they are protected by anonymity. You shouldn't even bother talking to these people or giving them any thought as it's a waste of your time.
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TheyManM Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
I agree 100 %.
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Phantom57 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
Please don't let that moron get you down Geraldine! We are a lot of followers that like/love your work.

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MarkoPou Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
naja.. ich hab grad jemanden gemeldet. :D das ist einfach nur noch traurig was für leute sich hier inzwischen rumtreiben..
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artlovr59 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013   Photographer
The thing to do is to forget it all!
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Velvet-Gentleman Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Small minded people using the anonymity of the internet to try and bully people. He has the problem, not you. 
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ScottDouglass Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
If it is any comfort, the offender is known for his vitriol and is paying the price twice. First the majority of comments on his page must be hidden or flagged because someone is usually rebuking him. Second, he remains otherwise largely ignored. Which is the way it should be. Block, report, hide/flag and forget.

Odd, too, that he chose one of your finest pieces to complain about. It is...just...beautifully and perfectly done! Exactly what one thinks of when one thinks of "Artistic Nude." One I could proudly display on my wall and never offend my own mother. It is more odd still that the man has two similar favorites in his collection, and a photograph of a statue of two lovers locked in a nude embrace (some one else's art mind you) among his deviations.

Move on and keep on. You do shoot like a girl...and it's marvelous! ;)
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Peterlerock Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Es ist in Artistic Nude doch schon eher ungewöhnlich, wenn nicht direkt zwischen die gespreizten Pobacken gezoomt wird, und die Kommentare dann verteilt auf die drei Lager "what a classy pose, such a wonderful shot", "i would totally rape that ass" und "this is porn not art" ausfallen.

Dagegen sind Deine Bilder doch völlig harmlos. Ein paar Brüste hier und da, huiuiui! Wer damit nicht klar kommt, dem ist echt nicht zu helfen... ;-)

Daher würd ich mir mal gar keine Gedanken machen. Deine Bilder sind wunderschön, Du ebenfalls, und dass sich immer wieder mal ein Vollidiot in die Kommentare verirrt, ist bei der reinen Menge an Usern nicht ungewöhnlich. Einfach ignorieren und weitermachen... :-)
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Carlsbergensis Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I confess to having had a similar problem under a different name. Not only did I block anyone who was so rude but I stopped posting my photography to that page. I realised that while the majority of people here in DA are wonderful people there are some really strange and nasty ones. Please continue with your wonderful work. There are so many people here who really love what you do and the techniques that you use. It is good to see you getting this issue out in the open and I hope this will ease the frustration that you must have been feeling.
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morbidorbits Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013   Artist
Bored, bored, bored.... these people need some drama in their lives and the easiest way to do that is to whip up little torrents/storms of emotion wherever they care to, in order to make their sad, boring, empty lives more exciting, even if only for an hour or 2.

This happens in life all of the time IRL and people look at TV and watch all of the 'slime oozing out' (to paraphrase Frank Zappa) and want their lives to be as exciting as the melodrama on their sacred box. I haven't had TV for 10y for this reason.

Don't give them any excitement and move on to your next project.  I understand why you want to react but it is more important to soak it up and let it (emotion) come out with all the other emotions, through your art. 
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Jan-N-Diam Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
The axiom rule: There is no erotic art. Only the art. It can of course be erotic. This is a POV ... on art.
The corollary, the people  who are critical or insultng they are hypocrite ;-)
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Andr345R Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
There are a lot of very strange people out there.
If I come across one, I block them right away.
I'm not going to waste my time on them.

This is the internet, all the stupid people are here too ;)

Your art is wonderful. Do what you love Hug
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Cavalliero Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Here is my comment to keep you inspired to keep doing your beautiful work. We all have problems with rude people along the life, but you have much more adorable fans to inspire you than big heads raging againts :)
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filanteperseide Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
Unfortunately there are those people, some do it for fun and some are indeed simple extremist fanatic and / or stuffed complex seeking to boost their self-esteem and their credibilities by lacerating the others. Nudity is all over the internet and with the new generation growing up, the morals border will probably go further in that route. Unfortunately the internet is a bit like the Far West: there are rules but little means to enforce them. Almost impossible to give a good slap behind the head (that's saying something ...) to those in need. The best way for you is to block your account to them, don't try to talk to them it's just a waste of time.
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